Thursday, December 6, 2007

Comment-Questions to make people think

This item was emailed to this blog.-AR

I love that you are doing a story on this. I have just a few comments, and a few questions. I'll also post some of my information and resources.

There are a lot of people that criticize what is said on the internet about this subject. In all fairness, there are a lot of kooks lurking around the net. However, say you had information of upmost importance to get out to people, and mainstream media wouldn't touch it. This is the case here, where most media is funded highly by drug companies that make money on vaccination, and therefore they have the upper hand. Where would you turn to get the word out? Certainly the internet is a great place to start. There are other ways to get information out to people, and you will certainly find those groups that are more involved and vocal. But you can't assume every piece of information on the net is false. The internet connects us in ways we never knew of before, and we can get information faster now than even 5 years ago.

Certainly if one is going to do their research and scrutinize everything they read, they should do so online AND with other resources. Which I have done. I am no expert, just a parent that is seeking the truth, and wanting the best for my child.

I started researching vaccines when I was pregnant. My mother in law told me that she had heard that autism might be linked to them since they are giving so many now. When I found out that they were trying to convince me that the chicken pox was a "deadly" disease that we had to vaccinate against, red flags went up... you're SUPPOSED to get chicken pox as a kid! I was also astounded that we needed to give a hepatitis B shot at birth. I don't claim to be a professional in the medical field, but I am certainly no dummy. I know a thing or two about a few diseases, and I know that hepatitis B is a blood infection that is transmitted by IV-sharing individuals, prostitutes and homosexuals. NOT newborns in sterile hospital nurseries. I thought the medical community had lost their minds when they said they NEEDED to vaccinate at birth for hepatitis B. That seemed OUTRAGEOUS to me! So my slight distrust for the medical community began. And it only escalated. (I should probably point out too, that my mom is a nurse, so I have always trusted my doctors.)

I researched enough to know I didnt want to do anything I wasn't comfortable with. Then came my son's two month checkup. I checked in that day and everything was fine. The nurse was bright and friendly and the pediatrician was gentle and sweet. Then I told her I was opting out of shots for that day. Suddenly the whole office seemed to turn on me. She filled my arms with paperwork from the CDC saying the risks of the diseases were great and that he was sure to die if I didnt vaccinate him. I told her I was uncomfortable with it based on what I have researched. Her response was something very similar to this: "The whole mercury in vaccine fiasco came about after a couple of doctors were sitting around at the CDC one day. One happened to mention as an afterthought that thimerosal had mercury in it and that might be harmful. Once that hit the media, it exploded into this nonsense about autism."

I was stunned. I didnt know if she actually believed that load or if she was trying to make something up on the spot. Anyone who has done 5 minutes of research into this knows that the medical community has fought this from the beginning. Besides, how can THOUSANDS of people have the EXACT SAME STORY about their kids regressing into autism after their 18 month MMR, and have it be a coincedence? I think not. So, my distrust for the medical community grew further.

I looked at her and said thanks. I'll keep that in mind as we're making our final decisions. She sighed heavily and walked out. Signing my paperwork as I was leaving was not so cheery as my check in. I haven't been back, and I don't intend to.

Our chiropractor is now our expert on health and wellness... our doctor, so to speak. But we now have a different idea of what health care should be. Doctors deal with sickness, not health. We'd rather take care of ourselves naturally and promote health rather than try and run from feeling sick. Health means your body is functioning properly - not that you arent feeling sick. Often times when you are sick, that means your body is functioning properly to rid your body of a disease. So we see health as an overall lifestyle, and take the good with the bad; not just "there's a pill for everything."

So thats a bit of my story... my son is 7 months old, unvaccinated and completely healthy. He has yet to contract something "deadly" like chicken pox. We are promoting health in our family by eating in a way that strengthens our immune systems, we dont use toxic anything in our home, we use homeopathic remedies, my son is breastfed and we take care of each other emotionally. Thats just a sliver of what we do to stay healthy.

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What follows is a little bit of my research, accompanied by a few questions that should make people think. I hope this helps!

From www.nvic.org - if you vaccinate, ask the following questions:

  1. Is my child sick right now?
  2. Has my child had a bad reaction to a vaccination before?
  3. Does my child have a personal or family history of:
  • vaccine reactions
  • convulsions or neurological disorders
  • severe allergies
  • immune system disorders
  1. Do I know if my child is at high risk of reacting?
  2. Do I know how to identify a vaccine reaction?
  3. Do I know how to report a vaccine reaction?
  4. Do I know the vaccine manufacturer's name and lot number?
  5. Do I know I have a choice?

More questions and information:

In regards to the theory that autism could be caused by genetics, how can you have an epidemic of a genetic disease? Why are genetics suddenly turning on us?

How can you justify injecting formaldeheyde into your baby? Aluminum? Antifreeze? Ether? Bovine serum? MSG? Polysorbate 80? Gelatin? Have you researched these ingredients to know if they are safe? Do you know that your digestive system is equipped to break down animal matter like chick eggs, and that your bloodstream is not equipped to handle it at all?

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol11no01/04-0632.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/surv-manual/downloads/chpt07_mumps.pdf

Do you trust a company that conducts studies on its own product? Of course not. So why do you trust pharmaceutical companies that test their own product? Do you know how their tests are conducted? Are you 100% sure that they are conducted with integrity? Espcially with so much money at stake?

Do you trust your parenting decisions enough to promote health and strengthen your child's imune system? Why would you need a vaccine to do that for you?

At age 2 months, do you know if your child is allergic to soy, yeast, or three seperate antibiotics? Did you know that they are being injected with them?

Would you feed your child genetically modified food products? Why would you inject them with genetically modified virus and bacteria products?

Would you let your child breathe the deadly mercury gas emitted from a broken spiral florescent lightbulb, or play with the mercury in an old thermometer? Why would you let your doctor inject it into them, especially prior to age 1 when their liver and gall bladders are not fully functioning to detoxify the body of heavy metals such as mercury, causing it to be stored in vulnerable brain tissue?

Did you know that if a vial of vaccine with thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, falls on the floor and breaks, it is hazardous waste and needs to be cleaned up by haz-mat certified professionals so nobody gets exposed to it. (Vaccines can be called "mercury free" if they have less than 3 mcg in them, although the standard limit is 1mcg)

Did you know that the Rotovirus vaccine was pulled from the market the first time it was added to the CDC Schedule for causing bowel obstructions and killing several children? This was discovered after it was on the market because of the rush through safety tests funded and run by the manufacturer.

IF you trust vaccines so much, why do you discourage unvaxed kids from being in public school with vaxed kids? If they worked it would only harm the kids whose parents knew there was a risk. Where did we get this idea that children are born disease ridden?

Who gets rich off the vaccines? Is it safe to accept the opinion of members of the FDA and CDC advisory commitees when they own stock or have worked for the pharm companies?

IF the flu vaccine worked why, when there are years that the vaccines are for strains that are in the US, then years when the vaccines are for strains that never made it to the US, are the death and fatality rate not drasticaly different?

$75,000 Offered For MD to Publicly Drink Vaccine Additives

Jock Doubleday, director of the California non-profit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., has offered $75,000 to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additives. The additives would be the same as those contained in the vaccines recommended for a 6-year-old according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines, and the dose would be body-weight calibrated.

It would include, but not be limited to:
• Thimerosal (a mercury derivative)
• Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
• Phenol (a disinfectant dye)
• Aluminum
• Benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant)
• Formaldehyde (a preservative and disinfectant)

On August 1, 2007, if no one has taken the challenge, the offer will be increased to $90,000 and will increase at a rate of $5,000 per month until someone accepts.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/07/19/75-000-offered-for-md-to-publicly-drink-vaccine-additives.aspx

Do the research for yourself!
http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html
www.nvic.org
www.vaclib.org
www.drtenpenny.com
www.thinktwice.com
www.mercola.com

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Vaccine ingredients: (see above CDC vaccine ingredient posting for more information)

Ammonium Sulfate
Suspected gastrointestinal, liver, nerve and respiratory system poison.

Beta-propilactone
Known to cause cancer, suspected gastrointestinal, liver, respiratory, skin and sense organ poison

Genetically modified yeast, animal, bacterial and viral DNA
Can be incorporated into the recipient's DNA and cause genetic mutations.

Latex Rubber
Can cause life-threatening allergic reactions

Monosodium glutamate (MSG)
Being studdied for mutagenic, teratogenic (developmental malformation and monstrosities) and reproductive effects. A neurotoxinAllergic reactions range from mild to severe.

Aluminum
Implicated as a cause of brain damage, suspected factor in alzeheimers, dementia, seizures and comas. Allergic reactions can occur on skin.

Formaldehyde
Major constituent of embalming fluid; poisonous if ingested. Probable carcinogen; suspected gastrointestinal, liver, immune system, nerve, reproductive system and respiratory poison. Linked to lukemia, brain, colon and lymphatic cancers. (So toxic that when working with it, you must have your face covered so you dont breathe in too many of the fumes... and we're injecting ourselves with it.)

Micro-Organisms
Live and killed viri and bacteria or their toxins. The polio vaccine was contaminated with a monkey virus now turning up in human bone, lung lining, brain tumors and lymphomas.

Polysorbate 80
Known to cause cancer in animals

Tri(n)butylphosphate
Suspected nerve and kidney poison

Glutaraldehyde
Poisonous if injected. Causes birth defects in experimental animals

Gelatin
Produced from pieces of calf and cattle skins, de-minerialized cattle bones and pork skin. Allergic reactions have been reported.

Gentamicin sulfate and polymyxin B
Allergic reactions can range from mild to life threatening.

Mercury (Thimerosal)
One of the most poisonous substances known. Has an affinity for the brain, gut, liver, bone-marrow and kidneys. Minute amounts can cause nerve damage. Symptoms of mercury toxocity are similar to those of autism.

Neomycin Sulfate
Interferes with Vitamin B6 absorption. An error in the update of B6 can cause a form of epilepsy and mental retardation. Allergic reactions can be mild to life-threatening.

Phenol / phenoxyethanol (2-pe)
Used as an antifreeze. Toxic to all cells and cabable of disabling the immune system's primary response mechanism.

Human and animal cells
Human cells from aborted fetal tissue and human albumin. Pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, guinea pig, dog kidney, cow heart, monkey kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf serum, sheep blood and others.

" A major cause of the roman empire's decline after 6 centuries of world dominance was its replacement of stone aqueducts by lead pipes for the transport and supply of drinking water. Roman engineers, the best in the world, turned their fellow citizens into neurological cripples. Today, our own "best and brightest" with the best of intentions, achieve the same end through childhood vaccination programs yeilding the modern scourges of hyperactivity, learning disabilities, autism, appetite disorders, and impulsive violence."
-Harris L. Coulter, Ph. D
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Okay, everyone. We know all about the toxic ingredients in vaccines. We have all heard about the mercury / autism debate. What we havent covered is what a vaccine actually DOES to your body.

This is not just speculation from my limited high school biology background. This information comes from a chiropractor here in Colorado Springs who periodically does information sessions for the community on the effects of vaccines. If anyone is near Colorado Springs and would like to know when the next session is, please message me and let me know. It is great information.

In laymans terms, the immune system has two facets. There is the cellular response to viruses and disease, and there is the antibody response. The cellular response recieves diseases naturally, has time to recognize, process and weaken the diseases before passing the information off to the antibody response. Then the antibody response kicks in and creates memory cells that recognize the disease and remembers how to fight it for next time. These two facets MUST be in balance or the immune system becomes damaged permanently.

Here's the thing. Were you to get a disease or virus NATURALLY, your body would use all its natural defenses to receive it, weaken it and fight it off before the antibody response starts. It'd have to pass your skin, your stomach lining, your sinuses, your lungs, etc - all the natural defenses our bodies have BEFORE showing up in the blood stream. But when you inject a vaccine into your system, you are bypassing ALL your body's natural defenses and forcing your body's antibody response to shoot through the roof.

This causes the cellular response to weaken.

The more you vaccinate, the weaker your cellular response becomes.

Eventually it will shut down and make you more suseptible to diseases because your body wont recognize a disease or fight it off until its too late - the antibody response is trained to be in supermode. The cellular response goes, "what we were doing before obviuosly didnt work since it made it into the blood stream without us knowing about it, so there's no point in trying anymore." ESPECIALLY in newborn babies and infants, we are training their immune systems FROM THE BEGINNING to operate un-naturally.

A few more things to keep in mind. Vaccines have to be cultured on live tissue. They are cultured on monkeys, dogs, cows, pigs, etc. There are also 13 vaccines currently on the market that are cultured on aborted human fetal tissue. For me as a christian, that was a huge deal. Now, for those that are cultured on a foreign agent such as a monkey kidney, the virus's RNA will take the form of the monkey's DNA which morphs the original virus into an entirely new disease. The thing is this: a monkey's DNA and a human's DNA are 99.9% alike. BUT that .1% is the difference between a monkey and a human!!! So to get a vaccine that is 99.9% like the original means the difference between two completely diametrically different things. When you inject something into yourself that has taken the form of a monkey, your body can not process it the same that a naturally occuring human disease would.

He also said this: a "long term study" is defined by the CDC and the FDA...

as 14 days.

Not years. Not decades, not even months! 14 days. Which, by the way, is less time than the flu incubates in your body before showing symptoms. Imagine the effects that a convoluted monkey / human disease will take - decades later!!! Back in the 60's and 70s the polio vaccine was made a certain way on monkey tissue which created a by-product disease called SV40. SV40 is now known to cause ALL KINDS of cancer. Breast cancer, bone cancer, lung cancer, brain cancer, etc. And the scary thing: it crossed the plancental barrier and is causing cancer and diabetes in kids now. They are saying it will take up to 5 GENERATIONS to get all that thing out of our systems.

Who is to say that they "fixed" that with modern vaccines? They are still using monkeys, cows, etc. for culturing diseases.

Several of the CDC and the FDA members that vote on the vaccines being given on the market today own patents for them. The CDC allows members THREE conflict of interest WAIVERS every year. No questions asked. Is public health REALLY their only concern?

One more thing and I'll be done. Therer is NO LONGER independent medical research firms. They are all dummy companies for the big pharmaceutical corporations. AND, anyone in a scientific field will tell you that if you have an agenda, you can twist "results" to your liking. If a dummy company does "research" on a vaccine or pill and comes up with results that the big company didnt like, they FIRE the head researcher and replace him with someone that will give them the results they want.

Lets not be dummies for the medical industry - which is exactly what this is. Your pediatrician gets PAID to give vaccines - thats a HUGE part of their paycheck!!! Of COURSE they are going to promote and push them! Follow the money trail and you will almost always find that its good for someone's checkbook to give you some drug, pill or vaccine. Doctors arent bad people - they are just doing what they are told and taught. And its scary.

Thats all - I hope this helps!

Rachel

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Success is never ending; failure is never final

6 comments:

ANB said...

Rachel, practically everything you wrote is wrong. However, you are right on one important point - that "kooks" are well represented on the internet. Unfortunately you've fallen for some of the kookiest - Mercola, Whale, and the ill-named National Vaccine Information Center.

Rather than spend the next hour drafting a bill of particulars, I would like to ask one question: As you Google away, looking for reliable information about vaccines, how to filter out the kooks? How do you separate the chaff of nonsense from the wheat of truth?

TheProbe said...

Rachel, your comment is one of the saddest ones I have ever read. You accepted every myth, lie and con job promoted by the anti-vaccination sociopathic fringe. It proves to me that the American education system is NOT working and your parents should demand a refund of their tax dollars.


And, no, I am not a doctor, or paid by any health related organization, company, etc. Just a concerned parent who has done the real research.

Midwest Dad said...

Symptoms of mercury toxocity are similar to those of autism.

Only very superficially. Otherwise, the two conditions are distinct. And who says our digestive systems can't handle chicken eggs? I had eggs for breakfast. ;-)

HCN said...

I left a comment here ages ago... it showed what kind of sanity one would expect from John Scudamore the owner of whale.to.

Is there a problem using John's own words to show his state of mind? He freely admitted to using "psychedelics", and that his bum was burned from satanic black lines.

I did not make that up, I just pointed out his own words posted to a public forum. Was that bad?

Or did it somehow show the lack of research in your news reporting.

HCN said...

Oh, wait ... it just occured to me why my comment was ignored.

You must be from Weston... the Town That Time Forgot (or in my opinion, should have long ago). The largest tobacco growing area west of the Mississippi, home to the only legal distillery in the state of Missouri... and where hemp was grown in WWII, and still grows wild.

Ah, yes... that little town near Kansas City full of pious people who were glad to grow and sell sin to the rest of the country.

Perhaps that is why mentioning that the Whale.to guy was a bit of a druggy loon cut to close to home. Sorry, but that is reality. You have to look at the source.

(yes, I hated my year in Weston. But fortunately my father was only at the Command and General Staff College in nearby Ft. Leavenworth, KS for a year... oh, wait... did I mention the prison farms?)

HCN said...

Here is part of the comment that was never approved:

Whale.to guy (John Scudamore) claims that satanic black lines burned his bum! From
http://www.whale.to/b/cbblack.html ... " I also burnt my ass on it some years back when I was experimenting with psychedelics, similar to a chemical burn right through my trousers, where the trousers were unscathed apart from a flattening of the cord. I thought, first, that I had been given a metaphysical kick up the backside! Perhaps I had. "

Not a very reliable source... Comments about John Scudamore in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-vaccinationists/Individuals include "a large and slightly sorted collection of conspiracy theory save the whale, illuminati, weird "science" and stuff which is not corrected to reflect demonstrated mistakes."

I would suggest that as journalism students that you take some of those dreaded science courses so that you can determine what are good sources, and what are bad sources of information.